This week on “Off The Cuff,” Justin and Karen are joined by the American Council on Education’s Assistant Vice President for Government Relations Jon Fansmith. The group kicks things off by detailing what higher education provisions have made the cut for President Joe Biden’s most recent Build Back Better framework. Karen then provides some fodder about the ongoing negotiated rulemaking process, and Hugh has a quick outlook on what NASFAA is tracking when it comes to these big policy debates, detailing how the process might play out.